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		<title>By: Patrick Piuma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Piuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps a change in the frequency people need to take driving exams to renew their license would help. I am sure there would be no political will to make something like this happen and the cost to conduct regular testing would surely be out of the question especially at this point in time. I can use my grandmother as a great example, I love her dearly but she should have been off the road a while ago. She lives on the east coast and I don&#039;t get a chance to see her very often, but by the time I realized she was showing strong signs of dementia she had been driving like that for close to a year. Beyond the sadness of seeing a loved ones mental functions deteriorate, it is absolutely frightening that there is not some safety-net to identify high-risk drivers. She quit driving on her own because apparently the act of driving had become too confusing. And she has an excuse for poor driving, but there are many people who are fortunate enough to have clear cognitive abilities, yet choose not to utilize that power when behind the wheel. If people would follow simple rules of the road everyone would be much better off. Like people who decide to merge at the last minute in a construction site backing up traffic for miles when the problem would be completely eliminated by an orderly process.

Anyway, pedestrians and cyclists are not completely innocent either however. Riding a bike on the sidewalk as an adult in not legal as far as I know, and so many people do it. I should know because about 7 years ago I was riding on the extremely wide sidewalks along Baxter to avoid rush hour traffic when I was struck by a turning car whose driver didn&#039;t make an effort to look both ways before gunning it to beat traffic. Much to my surprise, the officer placed me at fault. I accept the fact that I was in the wrong, knowingly or not, but I think there needs to be better education of the entire population as to what is legal and what is not for cars, peds and bikes. Just not sure how that could happen in an effective and transformational way.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;13676&#039;,&#039;Patrick Piuma&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;13676&#039;,&#039;Patrick Piuma&#039;,&#039;Perhaps a change in the frequency people need to take driving exams to renew their license would help. I am sure there would be no political will to make something like this happen and the cost to conduct regular testing would surely be out of the question especially at this point in time. I can use my grandmother as a great example, I love her dearly but she should have been off the road a while ago. She lives on the east coast and I don\&#039;t get a chance to see her very often, but by the time I realized she was showing strong signs of dementia she had been driving like that for close to a year. Beyond the sadness of seeing a loved ones mental functions deteriorate, it is absolutely frightening that there is not some safety-net to identify high-risk drivers. She quit driving on her own because apparently the act of driving had become too confusing. And she has an excuse for poor driving, but there are many people who are fortunate enough to have clear cognitive abilities, yet choose not to utilize that power when behind the wheel. If people would follow simple rules of the road everyone would be much better off. Like people who decide to merge at the last minute in a construction site backing up traffic for miles when the problem would be completely eliminated by an orderly process.\r\n\r\nAnyway, pedestrians and cyclists are not completely innocent either however. Riding a bike on the sidewalk as an adult in not legal as far as I know, and so many people do it. I should know because about 7 years ago I was riding on the extremely wide sidewalks along Baxter to avoid rush hour traffic when I was struck by a turning car whose driver didn\&#039;t make an effort to look both ways before gunning it to beat traffic. Much to my surprise, the officer placed me at fault. I accept the fact that I was in the wrong, knowingly or not, but I think there needs to be better education of the entire population as to what is legal and what is not for cars, peds and bikes. Just not sure how that could happen in an effective and transformational way.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a change in the frequency people need to take driving exams to renew their license would help. I am sure there would be no political will to make something like this happen and the cost to conduct regular testing would surely be out of the question especially at this point in time. I can use my grandmother as a great example, I love her dearly but she should have been off the road a while ago. She lives on the east coast and I don&#8217;t get a chance to see her very often, but by the time I realized she was showing strong signs of dementia she had been driving like that for close to a year. Beyond the sadness of seeing a loved ones mental functions deteriorate, it is absolutely frightening that there is not some safety-net to identify high-risk drivers. She quit driving on her own because apparently the act of driving had become too confusing. And she has an excuse for poor driving, but there are many people who are fortunate enough to have clear cognitive abilities, yet choose not to utilize that power when behind the wheel. If people would follow simple rules of the road everyone would be much better off. Like people who decide to merge at the last minute in a construction site backing up traffic for miles when the problem would be completely eliminated by an orderly process.</p>
<p>Anyway, pedestrians and cyclists are not completely innocent either however. Riding a bike on the sidewalk as an adult in not legal as far as I know, and so many people do it. I should know because about 7 years ago I was riding on the extremely wide sidewalks along Baxter to avoid rush hour traffic when I was struck by a turning car whose driver didn&#8217;t make an effort to look both ways before gunning it to beat traffic. Much to my surprise, the officer placed me at fault. I accept the fact that I was in the wrong, knowingly or not, but I think there needs to be better education of the entire population as to what is legal and what is not for cars, peds and bikes. Just not sure how that could happen in an effective and transformational way.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a  href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13676','Patrick Piuma'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a  href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13676','Patrick Piuma','Perhaps a change in the frequency people need to take driving exams to renew their license would help. I am sure there would be no political will to make something like this happen and the cost to conduct regular testing would surely be out of the question especially at this point in time. I can use my grandmother as a great example, I love her dearly but she should have been off the road a while ago. She lives on the east coast and I don't get a chance to see her very often, but by the time I realized she was showing strong signs of dementia she had been driving like that for close to a year. Beyond the sadness of seeing a loved ones mental functions deteriorate, it is absolutely frightening that there is not some safety-net to identify high-risk drivers. She quit driving on her own because apparently the act of driving had become too confusing. And she has an excuse for poor driving, but there are many people who are fortunate enough to have clear cognitive abilities, yet choose not to utilize that power when behind the wheel. If people would follow simple rules of the road everyone would be much better off. Like people who decide to merge at the last minute in a construction site backing up traffic for miles when the problem would be completely eliminated by an orderly process.

Anyway, pedestrians and cyclists are not completely innocent either however. Riding a bike on the sidewalk as an adult in not legal as far as I know, and so many people do it. I should know because about 7 years ago I was riding on the extremely wide sidewalks along Baxter to avoid rush hour traffic when I was struck by a turning car whose driver didn't make an effort to look both ways before gunning it to beat traffic. Much to my surprise, the officer placed me at fault. I accept the fact that I was in the wrong, knowingly or not, but I think there needs to be better education of the entire population as to what is legal and what is not for cars, peds and bikes. Just not sure how that could happen in an effective and transformational way.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Dave Morse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Morse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To generalise a bit, Louisville drivers don&#039;t like state changes. They light turns green - they like to sit still. The light turns red - they plow through anyway. They don&#039;t like being challenged or having to change plans when the environment demands it.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;13666&#039;,&#039;Dave Morse&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;13666&#039;,&#039;Dave Morse&#039;,&#039;To generalise a bit, Louisville drivers don\&#039;t like state changes. They light turns green - they like to sit still. The light turns red - they plow through anyway. They don\&#039;t like being challenged or having to change plans when the environment demands it.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To generalise a bit, Louisville drivers don&#8217;t like state changes. They light turns green &#8211; they like to sit still. The light turns red &#8211; they plow through anyway. They don&#8217;t like being challenged or having to change plans when the environment demands it.
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		<title>By: Branden Klayko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Branden Klayko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would be amazed at how such a small thing as using turn signals can help out pedestrians. Besides being the law and a safe way to go for motorists, it lets walkers and cyclists know the intentions of the driver and provides a little heads up to plan your next move. 
 
It&#039;s amazing dually how many people don&#039;t use turn signals for whatever reason and it&#039;s also a little strange how often I see people driving for miles with a turn signal left on. &lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;13529&#039;,&#039;Branden Klayko&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;13529&#039;,&#039;Branden Klayko&#039;,&#039;You would be amazed at how such a small thing as using turn signals can help out pedestrians. Besides being the law and a safe way to go for motorists, it lets walkers and cyclists know the intentions of the driver and provides a little heads up to plan your next move.\r \n\r \nIt&#039;s amazing dually how many people don&#039;t use turn signals for whatever reason and it&#039;s also a little strange how often I see people driving for miles with a turn signal left on. &#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would be amazed at how such a small thing as using turn signals can help out pedestrians. Besides being the law and a safe way to go for motorists, it lets walkers and cyclists know the intentions of the driver and provides a little heads up to plan your next move.</p>
<p>It&#039;s amazing dually how many people don&#039;t use turn signals for whatever reason and it&#039;s also a little strange how often I see people driving for miles with a turn signal left on.
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It&amp;#039;s amazing dually how many people don&amp;#039;t use turn signals for whatever reason and it&amp;#039;s also a little strange how often I see people driving for miles with a turn signal left on. '); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Ken Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent report and analysis, Branden. Thanks! 

There are so many issues involved here: development, sidewalks, engineering, housing patterns, density, commuting... but one issue that doesn&#039;t get discussed much (I&#039;d tried to elicit a response in regard to cycling) is driving itself: skills, laws, patterns, habits, and attitudes. 

When I first moved back to Louisville from Rochester NY, my first impression was that drivers here were a little more courteous, less aggressive, not relentlessly fast the way driving is in much of the Northeast... People will let you in, they don&#039;t tailgate, and they don&#039;t honk as as general rule.

But now I&#039;m afraid I have to change my assessment a bit. About a year ago, out of frustration, I got a bumper sticker that says &quot;Turn Signals: Use &#039;em People.&quot; From other forums I&#039;ve gotten the impression that many here think not using turn signals is charming and quirky and folksy or something. It&#039;s not. It&#039;s rude, lazy, selfish and dangerous. (I could point out it&#039;s supposed to be illegal, but that&#039;s almost irrelevant. I&#039;m sure cops never ticket for it. Hell, THEY don&#039;t use turn signals!) And it&#039;s emblematic of what&#039;s really wrong with Louisville drivers. They are not really present, not really aware of the road, not aware of much of anything. They are talking on the phone (illegal in NY), texting, watching tv, having dinner, whatever. I get the impression that many drive as though they&#039;re sitting around their living room channel-surfing. Every once in a while they notice their living room is moving.

What using your turn signal habitually does for you as a driver is take you out of the living room. It makes you think ahead - about your next moves, your destinations, your need to be in another lane AHEAD OF TIME. I&#039;m sure there are other habits of mind that need to be changed, but this one is a start. 

I walk four miles every morning. I cross a number of streets and I have to walk carefully in a few places where there are no sidewalks. I try to be totally aware of what drivers are doing and anticipate their moves. I can&#039;t tell you how many times I have found a car I assumed was going straight come barreling right at me. I have only one finger to defend myself.

How many feints, guesses, false starts, double takes, slammed brakes, jerked wheels happen because people don&#039;t signal? 

And how many deaths?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;13424&#039;,&#039;Ken Wilson&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;13424&#039;,&#039;Ken Wilson&#039;,&#039;Excellent report and analysis, Branden. Thanks! \r\n\r\nThere are so many issues involved here: development, sidewalks, engineering, housing patterns, density, commuting... but one issue that doesn\&#039;t get discussed much (I\&#039;d tried to elicit a response in regard to cycling) is driving itself: skills, laws, patterns, habits, and attitudes. \r\n\r\nWhen I first moved back to Louisville from Rochester NY, my first impression was that drivers here were a little more courteous, less aggressive, not relentlessly fast the way driving is in much of the Northeast... People will let you in, they don\&#039;t tailgate, and they don\&#039;t honk as as general rule.\r\n\r\nBut now I\&#039;m afraid I have to change my assessment a bit. About a year ago, out of frustration, I got a bumper sticker that says \&quot;Turn Signals: Use \&#039;em People.\&quot; From other forums I\&#039;ve gotten the impression that many here think not using turn signals is charming and quirky and folksy or something. It\&#039;s not. It\&#039;s rude, lazy, selfish and dangerous. (I could point out it\&#039;s supposed to be illegal, but that\&#039;s almost irrelevant. I\&#039;m sure cops never ticket for it. Hell, THEY don\&#039;t use turn signals!) And it\&#039;s emblematic of what\&#039;s really wrong with Louisville drivers. They are not really present, not really aware of the road, not aware of much of anything. They are talking on the phone (illegal in NY), texting, watching tv, having dinner, whatever. I get the impression that many drive as though they\&#039;re sitting around their living room channel-surfing. Every once in a while they notice their living room is moving.\r\n\r\nWhat using your turn signal habitually does for you as a driver is take you out of the living room. It makes you think ahead - about your next moves, your destinations, your need to be in another lane AHEAD OF TIME. I\&#039;m sure there are other habits of mind that need to be changed, but this one is a start. \r\n\r\nI walk four miles every morning. I cross a number of streets and I have to walk carefully in a few places where there are no sidewalks. I try to be totally aware of what drivers are doing and anticipate their moves. I can\&#039;t tell you how many times I have found a car I assumed was going straight come barreling right at me. I have only one finger to defend myself.\r\n\r\nHow many feints, guesses, false starts, double takes, slammed brakes, jerked wheels happen because people don\&#039;t signal? \r\n\r\nAnd how many deaths?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent report and analysis, Branden. Thanks! </p>
<p>There are so many issues involved here: development, sidewalks, engineering, housing patterns, density, commuting&#8230; but one issue that doesn&#8217;t get discussed much (I&#8217;d tried to elicit a response in regard to cycling) is driving itself: skills, laws, patterns, habits, and attitudes. </p>
<p>When I first moved back to Louisville from Rochester NY, my first impression was that drivers here were a little more courteous, less aggressive, not relentlessly fast the way driving is in much of the Northeast&#8230; People will let you in, they don&#8217;t tailgate, and they don&#8217;t honk as as general rule.</p>
<p>But now I&#8217;m afraid I have to change my assessment a bit. About a year ago, out of frustration, I got a bumper sticker that says &#8220;Turn Signals: Use &#8216;em People.&#8221; From other forums I&#8217;ve gotten the impression that many here think not using turn signals is charming and quirky and folksy or something. It&#8217;s not. It&#8217;s rude, lazy, selfish and dangerous. (I could point out it&#8217;s supposed to be illegal, but that&#8217;s almost irrelevant. I&#8217;m sure cops never ticket for it. Hell, THEY don&#8217;t use turn signals!) And it&#8217;s emblematic of what&#8217;s really wrong with Louisville drivers. They are not really present, not really aware of the road, not aware of much of anything. They are talking on the phone (illegal in NY), texting, watching tv, having dinner, whatever. I get the impression that many drive as though they&#8217;re sitting around their living room channel-surfing. Every once in a while they notice their living room is moving.</p>
<p>What using your turn signal habitually does for you as a driver is take you out of the living room. It makes you think ahead &#8211; about your next moves, your destinations, your need to be in another lane AHEAD OF TIME. I&#8217;m sure there are other habits of mind that need to be changed, but this one is a start. </p>
<p>I walk four miles every morning. I cross a number of streets and I have to walk carefully in a few places where there are no sidewalks. I try to be totally aware of what drivers are doing and anticipate their moves. I can&#8217;t tell you how many times I have found a car I assumed was going straight come barreling right at me. I have only one finger to defend myself.</p>
<p>How many feints, guesses, false starts, double takes, slammed brakes, jerked wheels happen because people don&#8217;t signal? </p>
<p>And how many deaths?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a  href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13424','Ken Wilson'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a  href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13424','Ken Wilson','Excellent report and analysis, Branden. Thanks! 

There are so many issues involved here: development, sidewalks, engineering, housing patterns, density, commuting... but one issue that doesn't get discussed much (I'd tried to elicit a response in regard to cycling) is driving itself: skills, laws, patterns, habits, and attitudes. 

When I first moved back to Louisville from Rochester NY, my first impression was that drivers here were a little more courteous, less aggressive, not relentlessly fast the way driving is in much of the Northeast... People will let you in, they don't tailgate, and they don't honk as as general rule.

But now I'm afraid I have to change my assessment a bit. About a year ago, out of frustration, I got a bumper sticker that says &quot;Turn Signals: Use 'em People.&quot; From other forums I've gotten the impression that many here think not using turn signals is charming and quirky and folksy or something. It's not. It's rude, lazy, selfish and dangerous. (I could point out it's supposed to be illegal, but that's almost irrelevant. I'm sure cops never ticket for it. Hell, THEY don't use turn signals!) And it's emblematic of what's really wrong with Louisville drivers. They are not really present, not really aware of the road, not aware of much of anything. They are talking on the phone (illegal in NY), texting, watching tv, having dinner, whatever. I get the impression that many drive as though they're sitting around their living room channel-surfing. Every once in a while they notice their living room is moving.

What using your turn signal habitually does for you as a driver is take you out of the living room. It makes you think ahead - about your next moves, your destinations, your need to be in another lane AHEAD OF TIME. I'm sure there are other habits of mind that need to be changed, but this one is a start. 

I walk four miles every morning. I cross a number of streets and I have to walk carefully in a few places where there are no sidewalks. I try to be totally aware of what drivers are doing and anticipate their moves. I can't tell you how many times I have found a car I assumed was going straight come barreling right at me. I have only one finger to defend myself.

How many feints, guesses, false starts, double takes, slammed brakes, jerked wheels happen because people don't signal? 

And how many deaths?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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