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	<title>Comments on: Joe Ley Looks To The Future Of East Market Street</title>
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		<title>By: Jeremy M.</title>
		<link>http://brokensidewalk.com/2009/11/11/joe-ley-looks-to-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-13749</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taking a look at the previous August discussion over naming/branding, I understand and appreciate BS&#039;s convention in referencing the name the general area has decided upon.

I also think I remember the &quot;Nulu&quot; designation was reluctantly or narrowly approved by the East Market Business association.  (Again, that&#039;s just how I think I remember it going down...I may be way off base and it passed with flying colors?).  Either way, I do think the general naming concept warrants a wider discussion, if only in the completely non-biding confines of Broken Sidewalk.

I fancy myself a resident, though cosmopolitan Louisvillian.  I welcome changes, influences, improvements, etc brought in by newcomers, recently relocated, etc.  With that said, careful consideration of (note: &quot;consideration of&quot;, not &quot;deference to&quot;) the standing history, traditions, and rituals should be observed, especially in a town like Louisville that (backwardly, IMHO) references gas stations and Bacon&#039;s stores closed decades prior.

The &quot;Nulu&quot; thing was a little too fast/too soon/too outsiderish?/too anticipatory/not properly rooted in history or geography for me.  

Vast investment and rehabilitation of an area of Louisville? Check.  That&#039;s awesome.  Work and money appreciated.

Renaming rights of an area of town dating to the mid 1800&#039;s?  Eh.....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking a look at the previous August discussion over naming/branding, I understand and appreciate BS&#8217;s convention in referencing the name the general area has decided upon.</p>
<p>I also think I remember the &#8220;Nulu&#8221; designation was reluctantly or narrowly approved by the East Market Business association.  (Again, that&#8217;s just how I think I remember it going down&#8230;I may be way off base and it passed with flying colors?).  Either way, I do think the general naming concept warrants a wider discussion, if only in the completely non-biding confines of Broken Sidewalk.</p>
<p>I fancy myself a resident, though cosmopolitan Louisvillian.  I welcome changes, influences, improvements, etc brought in by newcomers, recently relocated, etc.  With that said, careful consideration of (note: &#8220;consideration of&#8221;, not &#8220;deference to&#8221;) the standing history, traditions, and rituals should be observed, especially in a town like Louisville that (backwardly, IMHO) references gas stations and Bacon&#8217;s stores closed decades prior.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Nulu&#8221; thing was a little too fast/too soon/too outsiderish?/too anticipatory/not properly rooted in history or geography for me.  </p>
<p>Vast investment and rehabilitation of an area of Louisville? Check.  That&#8217;s awesome.  Work and money appreciated.</p>
<p>Renaming rights of an area of town dating to the mid 1800&#8217;s?  Eh&#8230;..?</p>
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		<title>By: Branden Klayko</title>
		<link>http://brokensidewalk.com/2009/11/11/joe-ley-looks-to-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-13732</link>
		<dc:creator>Branden Klayko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I explained my take on this particular neighborhood name battle &lt;a href=&quot;http://brokensidewalk.com/2009/08/03/what-makes-the-green-building-green/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in August over here&lt;/a&gt; along with a couple other good comments. There seems so be a good discussion going on now, too, on both sides. I haven&#039;t had a chance to write a dedicated article, as promised, about this issue but still plan on it, so gather your thoughts about neighborhood names, boundaries, etc. for next week. I&#039;ll try to include the ideas from these comments as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I explained my take on this particular neighborhood name battle <a href="http://brokensidewalk.com/2009/08/03/what-makes-the-green-building-green/" rel="nofollow">in August over here</a> along with a couple other good comments. There seems so be a good discussion going on now, too, on both sides. I haven&#8217;t had a chance to write a dedicated article, as promised, about this issue but still plan on it, so gather your thoughts about neighborhood names, boundaries, etc. for next week. I&#8217;ll try to include the ideas from these comments as well.</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyO</title>
		<link>http://brokensidewalk.com/2009/11/11/joe-ley-looks-to-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-13731</link>
		<dc:creator>JimmyO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not call it the East Market District and then let cool people shorten the name so we could play SoHo in our own backyard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not call it the East Market District and then let cool people shorten the name so we could play SoHo in our own backyard.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me in as one with an extreme distaste for the &quot;NuLu&quot; branding and how it was foisted upon an area not suffering from a lack of identity.  Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but this was a Gil Holland invention, no?  I have wondered for some time how such a new Louisvillian can be accredited with such a swift name change/branding of historic Louisville areas.

Props to (new, out-of-town, whatever) investors in the area and I think Gil Holland has some good ideas.  Just think a bit of legacy should be involved in a wholesale name change.  Should his ideas and imprint have staying power, I would have no problem calling the area, say, &quot;Hollandville&quot; 50 years from now.  But, for the time being, it&#039;s &quot;East Market&quot; for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me in as one with an extreme distaste for the &#8220;NuLu&#8221; branding and how it was foisted upon an area not suffering from a lack of identity.  Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but this was a Gil Holland invention, no?  I have wondered for some time how such a new Louisvillian can be accredited with such a swift name change/branding of historic Louisville areas.</p>
<p>Props to (new, out-of-town, whatever) investors in the area and I think Gil Holland has some good ideas.  Just think a bit of legacy should be involved in a wholesale name change.  Should his ideas and imprint have staying power, I would have no problem calling the area, say, &#8220;Hollandville&#8221; 50 years from now.  But, for the time being, it&#8217;s &#8220;East Market&#8221; for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, appropriate article: http://www.cooltownstudios.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, appropriate article: <a href="http://www.cooltownstudios.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cooltownstudios.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you Ken, I too think that &quot;NuLu&quot; is rather good.  It is easy to say and easy to remember.  Your boundaries are also the same as I would choose.  This area reminds me more of Greenwich Village then any other Louisville area, but obviously that name would not be appropriate.  NuLu is, in my judgment, the best area for a mix of residential and commercial.  It is not &quot;convention&quot; or &quot;sports&quot; oriented as are the areas west of Floyd St.  NuLu is &quot;local&quot; and &quot;creative&quot; which make it a special place.  In coming years NuLu will be the place to visit and to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you Ken, I too think that &#8220;NuLu&#8221; is rather good.  It is easy to say and easy to remember.  Your boundaries are also the same as I would choose.  This area reminds me more of Greenwich Village then any other Louisville area, but obviously that name would not be appropriate.  NuLu is, in my judgment, the best area for a mix of residential and commercial.  It is not &#8220;convention&#8221; or &#8220;sports&#8221; oriented as are the areas west of Floyd St.  NuLu is &#8220;local&#8221; and &#8220;creative&#8221; which make it a special place.  In coming years NuLu will be the place to visit and to live.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rather like &#039;NuLu&#039; - despite its slightly plastic adspeak quality. It has become a useful shorthand for a strip of East Market, but will no doubt come to encompass a larger area - a nice square bounded by Wenzel, Jefferson (thus including the proposed farmers market), Hancock (nothing&#039;s going to get people past that ugly overpass), and Main (the &#039;flower and decor&#039; area: Boston&#039;s, Digs, Bittner&#039;s  is sure to, uh, blossom with more activity and come to seem part of NuLu).

It&#039;s a newly created commercial section, not a historical one. As such, the business powers that be are going to create a name that is specific to that place and easy to remember and say. &quot;East Market&quot; will eventually be too specific (if you want to go New York, it could be EaMar, which sounds like that nerdy science teacher in ninth grade - or a car parts store). NuLu is more specific in area than Phoenix Hill. No one is going to say &#039;Let&#039;s go down to Phoenix Hill&#039; when they mean they want to eat at Social and check out Scout. Phoenix Hill encompasses a large area that no one really calls Phoenix Hill. Growing up in the 50s and 60s that area was &#039;down by the stockyards.&#039; Phoenix Hill now means the Tavern, which is actually ON that hill.

The thing about place names that stick - and this one will... it already has - is that they gain patina eventually. In 25 years NuLu will have that. History didn&#039;t happen all in the past. It&#039;s happening now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rather like &#8216;NuLu&#8217; &#8211; despite its slightly plastic adspeak quality. It has become a useful shorthand for a strip of East Market, but will no doubt come to encompass a larger area &#8211; a nice square bounded by Wenzel, Jefferson (thus including the proposed farmers market), Hancock (nothing&#8217;s going to get people past that ugly overpass), and Main (the &#8216;flower and decor&#8217; area: Boston&#8217;s, Digs, Bittner&#8217;s  is sure to, uh, blossom with more activity and come to seem part of NuLu).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a newly created commercial section, not a historical one. As such, the business powers that be are going to create a name that is specific to that place and easy to remember and say. &#8220;East Market&#8221; will eventually be too specific (if you want to go New York, it could be EaMar, which sounds like that nerdy science teacher in ninth grade &#8211; or a car parts store). NuLu is more specific in area than Phoenix Hill. No one is going to say &#8216;Let&#8217;s go down to Phoenix Hill&#8217; when they mean they want to eat at Social and check out Scout. Phoenix Hill encompasses a large area that no one really calls Phoenix Hill. Growing up in the 50s and 60s that area was &#8216;down by the stockyards.&#8217; Phoenix Hill now means the Tavern, which is actually ON that hill.</p>
<p>The thing about place names that stick &#8211; and this one will&#8230; it already has &#8211; is that they gain patina eventually. In 25 years NuLu will have that. History didn&#8217;t happen all in the past. It&#8217;s happening now.</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimmyO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt

I agree that we do not need to fabricate a name, especially one that seems more NYC than Louisville, but what do you define as tackiness - the new Creation Gardens, the new restaurants, Legacy Lofts?</description>
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<p>I agree that we do not need to fabricate a name, especially one that seems more NYC than Louisville, but what do you define as tackiness &#8211; the new Creation Gardens, the new restaurants, Legacy Lofts?</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimmyO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt

What would you call this area?  East Market District?  East Market &amp; East Main District?  West Butchertown?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt</p>
<p>What would you call this area?  East Market District?  East Market &amp; East Main District?  West Butchertown?</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will people figure out that there is no NuLu?  These neighborhoods already have names.  Our city already has a history.  A history that shouldn&#039;t be over written with some terrible name that investors have come up with to rip off New York neighborhoods.  Why should Louisville being trying so hard to be some half rate recreation of NYC?  We have history and a future, neither of which do we need to &quot;sell out&quot; by coming up with awful names like NuLu and SoBro.  REALLY!  That&#039;s the kind of crap you&#039;d expect out of high school kids that have never actually been to the places they are ripping off.  It&#039;s stunning that a site that supports Louisville and it&#039;s history is so in bed with these names.  I hoping that the developer of this site, now living in the city that we are ripping off, realizes the tackiness of what the Louisville developers are trying to pull off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will people figure out that there is no NuLu?  These neighborhoods already have names.  Our city already has a history.  A history that shouldn&#8217;t be over written with some terrible name that investors have come up with to rip off New York neighborhoods.  Why should Louisville being trying so hard to be some half rate recreation of NYC?  We have history and a future, neither of which do we need to &#8220;sell out&#8221; by coming up with awful names like NuLu and SoBro.  REALLY!  That&#8217;s the kind of crap you&#8217;d expect out of high school kids that have never actually been to the places they are ripping off.  It&#8217;s stunning that a site that supports Louisville and it&#8217;s history is so in bed with these names.  I hoping that the developer of this site, now living in the city that we are ripping off, realizes the tackiness of what the Louisville developers are trying to pull off.</p>
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